Monday, November 7, 2011

I Couldn't Have Summed It Up Better Myself

I personally am not a religious person, but have no problems with anyone's chosen beliefs or how they personally choose to live or worship, but I am tired of the extremism of the so-called "Religious Right" and the people for whom religion is all about what OTHERS should do and not what they themselves should do.  Fundamentalists of any religion are dangerous, and I do not believe any of my truly spiritual or religious friends have anything in common with the fundamentalist "Christians" who cannot and DO NOT respect the rights of others to their own beliefs or lack thereof.  (Nor, of course, do I actually think the Religious Right has anything to do with all the positive, caring things that the Bible credits Jesus with saying, for that matter) I think this:

sums up the Fundamentalist problem quite nicely.  Thank you to Atheist Eve for putting it so clearly.


Alacaeriel said...

And here I thought some of the original settlers of the USA went there from England so they could have freedom of religion. I think they were Presbyterian while the Monarch of England at the time was Catholic. And isn't freedom of religion in your Constitution?

Toni said...

Technically, they were Puritans who were thrown out of England and then Denmark (?) or another Scandinavian country because of their religious beliefs, so they came here, but they only wanted freedom of religion for THEMSELVES and about 200 years later we ended up with the Salem Witch Trials because of their fanaticism. Lots of the 13 colonies started out with particular religious leanings and cheerfully persecuted everybody else. Now they're trying to have "Intelligent Design" taught in schools instead of science, they STILL deny Global Warming in spite of the quite obvious results we've seen this year (Hello--Hurricanes in New York?????), and trying to ban books is just a regular occurrence here. Personally, I don't see that they've changed much.

Our first amendment to the constitution states Congress "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

At better times in our history, the Supreme Court has ruled that it also meant freedom FROM religion and an absolute separation of church and state, but the rise of the Religious Right has stomped all over that. Now if they can't shove Ten Commandment monuments into every public building, require prayer to be said everywhere, they claim they're being persecuted.

They're already starting on the attack of "Happy Holidays" versus Christmas (even though Puritans actually outlawed Christmas in England during the Cromwell period AND that the Christians merely took a pagan holiday and declared it to be their own). Basically from now until January 2 really is the "Holiday season" here in the states because of Thanksgiving. But you can't tell fundamentalists anything.

Personally, I have a lot of doubts about the validity of anyone's faith if it is at all affected by not seeing religious symbols everywhere. And it sounds a lot like what the Protestant movement complained was wrong with the Catholic church............

Alacaeriel said...

Ah... so it was originally freedom to practice their religion rather than freedom to practice whatever religion anyone chose? Right... And of course, God decided to put some hurricanes in NY simply to add a bit more spice to the city.

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